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The Scouring of the Shires
Neither cafe nor pub is safe from the new Shadow that has risen in the West... "SZC" is its name, a harsh and guttural word that has meaning only in the language of More-dosh.


More to the point- doesn't the Tolkein estate own the rights, not some bunch of US money grabbers?

I assume those rights got sold at some point...

It's not that I object to people asserting their copyright. If people were selling knock-off copies of The Hobbit or pirate DVDs I'd happily condemn them (and I speak as someone whose novels can be downloaded for free at at pirate sites, much to my chagrin). It's the lack of proportion and common sense that's the problem here. No one in their right mind is going to think that the Hungry Hobbit cafe is endorsed by this Hollywood company, nor is its existence going to rob them of one cent of revenue - the reverse, if anything. It's just mean!

Well yes, but some of these namings will long predate the influence of movie-dom upon these characterisations and something like 'hobbit' has been in the OED (and therefore is common usage) for over three decades.

It's just another example of people on that side of the pond needing to get a clue! This is the worst sort of cultural appropriation and a pernicious form of imperialism.

I thought the films completely missed the point of the books anyway, but then I'm English and studied old and middle english as an undergrad so I have, shall we say, views.............

I share your dislike of companies trying to copyright existing words. It's a bit like the attempt to copyright molecules or naturally occurring species - playing God and King Canute all in one go.

Not that it's entirely a transatlantic phenomenon. I remember the case of a butcher called Mr Virgin (whose shop was Virgin Butcher) being sued by Branson's mob on similar grounds a few years ago - and he'd been in business for decades, since the time when Mike Oldfield's only instrument was a comb and toilet paper.

Edited at 2012-03-15 09:27 am (UTC)

There was a cheapy shop hereabouts that called itself: ' 'Arrods' and Al Fayed took the hump. He won the case and they changed to name of the shop.

To: 'Not 'Arrods' :o)

Cute!